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Gaffer

  • Jun. 13th, 2010 at 8:30 AM
Apparently fanfiction.net has fiddled with their code again, thus making Fanfiction Downloader not work for the site.  Hopefully Raimonds is working on the issue, but since I'm terribly impatient, I went off searching for an alternate program.  Fortunately, I found a *fabulous* one:

Gaffer

I have to admit, I like both the ease of set-up (note: you'll probably want either the SimpleOneFile (black text on white background) or the AllInOne (light text on dark background) template) and the information on the output file (original link!  word count!) a bit better than on Fanfiction Downloader.  Plus, Gregory (Gaffer's creator) is continually updating it, which means that Gaffer works on a lot of popular sites and/or more recent sites (including TTH and Archive of Our Own).  In short, Gaffer is awesome.

The downside apparently is that: "Graffer only works on Windows OS with .NET Framework 3.5 installed."  I have to admit, I'm not 100% sure what the .NET framework is, but the program ran on my computer without me having to change a thing (and a link is provided for you to download .NET if necessary).

ETA: Apparently I neglected to explain what the program actually does:)  Essentially, Gaffer downloads all parts of a story from a given archive and saves them using your preferred template.  SimpleOneFile (which is my favorite) combines all of the chapters into a single file, strips out all of the extraneous nonsense (menus, style sheets, etc), and gives you a file with nothing more than plain HTML and the RTF content of the story.

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[identity profile] rabidsamfan.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 02:59 pm (UTC)
Er... looked at the site, but I'm still not sure exactly what the program does. Does it create a doc for your computer of the whole story? What?
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:25 pm (UTC)
Basically it does the same thing that Fanfiction Downloader did: download all parts of a story from a given archive and saves them using your preferred template. SimpleOneFile (which is my favorite) combines all of the chapters into a single file, strips out all of the extraneous nonsense (menus, style sheets, etc), and gives you a file with nothing more than plain HTML and the RTF content of the story. Ideal for FF.net (which has a hideous interface), but also for sites like TTH (which has a downloading system that I hate) and AO3 (which isn't horrible, but which does include scads of useless information since you can't just download the text of the story).

I'll update the post to include this information:)
[identity profile] rabidsamfan.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:34 pm (UTC)
Oooh, shiny. Given that I'd never even heard of fanfiction downloader, this counts as a new toy!
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[identity profile] mremre.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 03:33 pm (UTC)
This post should be labelled PSA! I'm really liking Gaffer so far, and the expanded list of supported archives. Gaffer + Calibre = eReader Awesome! Thanks for the heads-up my dear!
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:04 am (UTC)
Ooo, I'd never heard of Calibre before (I've been using Mobipocket Creator, but am not thrilled with it) -- I'm definitely going to give it a try!
[identity profile] slyprentice.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 05:01 pm (UTC)
I'm glad to see there's an alternative to FFD. As much as I love it, there hasn't been an update for it in long enough to make me think that there won't be. I'm definitely going to give this a try (probably after I comment here ;) and see how it compares - don't you wish more archives were open to simple 1-2-3 downloading processes?

Thank you!
[identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 06:14 pm (UTC)
I know! So many sites have the "Story" option for getting the whole thing. If FF was going to fiddle with code, why not add that?!
[identity profile] slyprentice.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 09:52 pm (UTC)
Even the sites that offer the 'story' option can (sometimes) be a pain, though. I've had a few times where the entire story just didn't appear or the coding went wonky. Then again, it's definitely better than having to copy/paste everything, which is time-consuming to the nth degree.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:05 am (UTC)
There was at least one previous year-long gap between updates, but they still make me nervous. And I'm all in favor of sites having a straightforward, clean downloading process:)
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[personal profile] chibifukurou wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 05:22 pm (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know about this. I am extremely exited about the light text on dark background option. I have a visual processing disorder that makes it hard to stare at a white screen long term, so this sounds ideal!
[identity profile] xylohypha.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 10:24 pm (UTC)
For those light text on dark background pages, you might also find some use in the bookmarklets available at this bookmarklet site (http://great-grandma.com/bookmarklet/darken-rev_zzr.html). (Bookmarklets are pieces of JavaScript which can do nifty things to how a page is displayed.)

There are several bookmarklet options available there which will give you white text on a black background, and directions on how to save bookmarklets to your favorites folder so that you can use them whenever you wish.

(I prefer black text on white background, and use similar-but-different bookmarklets to give that to me--and I love being able to do that! Yay for flexibility!)
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:05 am (UTC)
Perfect! I hope you like it:)
[identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC)
Oh, thanks for the tip that FF fiddled! I'm on a Mac, so I use DownloadStory, and then I have a series of code fixes I run on the html file to make it work properly. I just tested it, and it looks like FF might have fixed two pieces of messy code that I now don't have to fix myself. \o/
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:06 am (UTC)
Awesome:)
[identity profile] tyloric.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 06:49 pm (UTC)
They made it so that mobile access is automatically redirected to the mobile website. :/ Which sucks, because now on my DSi (which is how I USUALLY browse FF.Net) is redirected as well and the mobile version is... terrible compared to the full version. xD
[identity profile] slyprentice.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
There should be a link option to switch from the mobile version of the site to the full version at the bottom of the screen. I believe it says something like 'Return to Site'.
[identity profile] tyloric.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 10:16 pm (UTC)
And so there is. Thanks for pointing that out!
[identity profile] slyprentice.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 01:19 am (UTC)
No prob! It's the first thing I tried to figure out when I used my DSi :)
[identity profile] pe1804.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for letting me know about this :)
It's an awesome programm. Totally easy to use.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:06 am (UTC)
Glad you like it!
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[personal profile] amalthia wrote:
Jun. 13th, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this program out I didn't even know where to begin looking for a fanfiction downloader replacement.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:07 am (UTC)
Heh. As soon as it stopped working, I sort of panicked (I download massive amounts of stuff from ff.net each week -- mostly it's crap, but the occasional gem makes it worth it) and went hunting everywhere for other people who seemed to be having a problem. As I recall, this program came about after the *last* time FFD stopped working:)
[identity profile] lucidscreamer.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 12:42 am (UTC)
Thanks for this. I've become totally dependent on FFdownloader, so having an alternative is great.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 03:08 am (UTC)
Me, too! I was so relieved to find this program:)
[identity profile] hettie-ethel.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 11:27 am (UTC)
For those still wanting to use the downloader I cam across the online version that stores files in google.
http://fanfictionloader.appspot.com/
I could not get the text section to work but the html and ebook worked fine.
If you use stanza on a ipod touch or iphone you can use the program to directly download the story into stanza. I tried this and it worked really well.
Directions at
http://sigizmund.com/reading-fanfiction-off-line-in-stanza-and-other-ebook-readers/

This site seems more up to date than the desktop program and I used it yesterday so it works with ff.nets new code.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
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[identity profile] lothy.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC)

Ooh, another program? I'll have to have a look in a bit :) And update my guide.

Did you ever check out the Firefox add-on I told you about?
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 06:35 pm (UTC)
I did. Unfortunately, it didn't save all of the chapters into a single file (and all of the files were saved into individual folders, thus requiring more wrist movement to get them in a position to create a single file than me just downloading the files manually) it didn't really work for me. Plus it was randomly downloading random blank pages (possibly interfering with Gaffer) so I finally had to remove it.

I like the idea, though, and if you find another add-on that does something similar, I'd love to give it a try.
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[identity profile] lothy.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 06:46 pm (UTC)

Hmm. It didn't dl them into separate folders for me. Did you follow the way I did it (on the guide)?

There might be something similar around if that one really didn't work for you. I could check.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 06:47 pm (UTC)
Yep. But I have to admit, I found the multiple file section to be a bit vague when actually putting it into practice (the sidebar wasn't a default when I installed the add-in, for example).
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[identity profile] lothy.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 06:59 pm (UTC)

I honestly don't know, then. Maybe it was the particular kind of site you were trying to dl from? I admit that I haven't tried it on all that many as yet. Or maybe there was a box somewhere that needed unticking :s

I'll have a look and see if I can find any alternatives.

[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 14th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC)
Possibly I'm just not very good with Firefox add-ons. I pretty much stick to AdBlocker, usually:)
[identity profile] patk.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 16th, 2010 07:16 am (UTC)
Aaaaand ... there's an updated version of Fanfiction Downloader, called version 4.0.5 as per 14th of June 2010:

http://www.home-eisele.de/index_e.php

To reach the DL-links simply click on "programs".

Works just fine. :-)

[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 16th, 2010 04:17 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
[identity profile] d-moonchild.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 19th, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC)
Ohhh, how lovely. I had no clue such a thing existed, and silently cursed the authors breaking up their stories into 50-60 chapters.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 20th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
Glad you like it!
[identity profile] twilight-topas.livejournal.com wrote:
Mar. 28th, 2011 08:45 am (UTC)
The homepage to Graffer doesn't seem to work, does anyone knows what happened?
[identity profile] valiha.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 03:44 pm (UTC)
I'd also like to pose the same question, if I may. And not only is the homepage nonexistent, now Graffer itself doesn't seem to work - it downloads only the first few lines of a fic, leaving me with a 1kb file.

I depended on this nice little program. Has it gone the way of the dodo, or is it just a temporary glitch; does anyone know? I haven't been able to find out... :(
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 03:56 pm (UTC)
I have to admit, I gave up on Gaffer after I realized that it wasn't working properly with AO3 (which now has an HTML single file download option anyway) and I can't find any information online about what happened to the program. However, if you don't like Fanfiction Downloader or if it doesn't include an archive you'd like you use, you might consider FLAG:

http://www.flagfic.com/

I've never tried it, but everything I've read about it is positive. Good luck!
[identity profile] valiha.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 06:24 pm (UTC)
Thank you for that recommendation, I'll check it out!

It's not that I don't like Fanfiction Downloader - I was so satisfied with Graffer that I never even installed it. Checking the posts up thread it seems its now updated, so I will definitely try it out too. I think it's the new "share to social sites" link that's messing Graffer up, because it downloads story information, and cuts off abruptly at the word "Share". :headdesk:

And honestly, as long as the program covers the major Harry Potter archives, I'll be happy. After I spent years avoiding it because friends kept pushing it on me (a guaranteed way to make me dislike something intensely), I caved in recently and read the books, watched the movies, and I am now officially bewitched. I've turned into my friends. (Pot, meet kettle. :facepalm:)

There must be something about them, because there are some things there that I really didn't like but I'm reading fics like crazy! (Now that I'm here, I might check some of your recs; I wish there was a way to combine tags on LJ...)
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 06:30 pm (UTC)
It took me a long, long time to try a Harry Potter fic. I think much of the fault lies in the fact that the books are intended for children, so I imagined the fics were by children, too (not to mention the fact that the bulk of the bad press fanfiction gets is due to HP fics). Once I got started, however, I was thrilled -- it's easily the largest fandom out there and that means that even if much of the fic is crap, there's still guaranteed to be a lot that's good!

I'm not sure if Fanfiction Downloader covers all of the HP archives, but I find that most of the HP archives have a Print feature that gives you the whole fic in a single file anyway. It definitely works for FF.net though, even with the new share feature (I just tested it to be sure:)
[identity profile] valiha.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 06:53 pm (UTC)
I've already managed to build up quite a large collection. :) I download everything in sight (a leftover from the time I had a computer at home, but no internet connection and the net caffes were expensive!), keep what I want to re-read and chuck the rest.

Have you read Cauterize, by Lady Altair? By the time I finished it, I was quite literally sobbing in my chair. I lived through a war in my mid teens, 14-17, dodging bullets and searching for food, and I'm very familiar with the emotional scars a war leaves on a person. While physical scars are avoidable if you're fast enough - and lucky enough - those are not. And Anna Fugazzi's The House that Cedric Built, for showing how they might rebuild and cope with the aftermath because I doubt very much that all is well in the wizarding world. It doesn't seem like they learned anything. Then again, neither have we, so... yeah. There's another disaster coming, I bet.
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 07:36 pm (UTC)
I have to admit, I usually focus on the fics that deal more with character interactions than with the war itself (as I'm a big relationship fan). Still, I have more (and longer) HP fics in my reread folder than any other fandom.
[identity profile] valiha.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 07:51 pm (UTC)
In most cases I prefer character interactions too, and most of my fandoms have a group of people in it rather than a pair or a single person (off the top of my head, Homicide, Firefly, Mag7), but with this fandom I also found myself wanting to know how the wizarding world would deal with the consequences of the war and whether they would address the causes that led to it. I suppose it's because it's so close to home - I'm hoping for some sort of a resolution in fiction since I can't get it in real life. A lot of my reading seems to be for therapeutic purposes.

I'm off to explore the recs - I found out that it's actually possible to combine tags by adding a comma in between and appending this to the url:

/tag/tag1,tag2?mode=and
[identity profile] jane-elliot.livejournal.com wrote:
Jun. 12th, 2011 07:54 pm (UTC)
Very cool, thanks!

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